Fon Sawe is asked where he came from... He starts by saying that he is permitted to wear leopard's teeth and is second to Fon Bum in rank. He sits above Fon Saf and to the left of Fon Bum. Sawe came from Oku out of the lake, Mawes; he came to Sawe-Bum. There were many left in Oku, but he won't say more "in case politics are made out of it". Fon Saf says he only knows what his father said, that his ancestor came from the Mbiribo pool and met the Saf up here, but his big men are not here so he cannot tell the story of Saf.

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