4/3 i(Mehmet Tasdemir) - ba {vineyard} 2 years old
i(Osman Gursu) - ba 6 or 7 years old
5/3 Old ba in village 15 years or so
i(Musa Bingl)'s ba - 1 year
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{c: this innovation had vanished by I think 1971, and certainly by the 1980s. I did not fidn opuitn how long it was before they gave up. Climate too cold.}
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