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1986_July-Sept_86HH -    Note: 985

Page: 232-240
Date: 5. 9. 86.
Location: Adana
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Visit to i(5853 Arefe's) house.

Address: Teoman Pasa Cad.
138 Sak., corner house, Gl. Ap.
(Parallel to Kongaalti)

If new law comes out in Germany, i(0047 Hidayet) could collect various rights totally. 80,000 DM (x 330 = 26mTL).

i(5853 Arefe) (see also secondary interview).
{1957} i(0047 Hidayet) was in Konya. Decided to get a wife, his friends found i(5853 Arefe). Her father agreed, and she nianl {gl : engaged}for 5 days and
married. Complete stranger.
6 months in Konya.
6 months July - Dec. 1957, as gelin.
{no exchanges - no balk {gl : bridewealth}, nothing, "kz ya*flik".}
"Gnumci eziyar".{?}
Back to Konya.
1959 Another 7 months in Sak.
Back to her father, while i(0047 Hidayet) went to asker.

1963 i(0047 Hidayet) and i(5853 Arefe) moved to Antalya.

1971 She went officially to Germany "hadinlar ici buklemek yoktu".
6 months later she got him to Germany - some factory. She changed her job once.
1984 She got a disablement pension (worth 230,000TL at current prices).
She goes to Germany to collect it, in case they reduce it if they know she is living in Turkey.
She has only been back less (than) 1 year.
She was happy "rahat" {gl : comfortable} - pension, ko caliyordim.{?}

But she came because she wants Serkan to be educated in Turkey. He is going to orta this year. He will do English and thus have three languages. He visits
Germany not to forget. She drives back and forth - her own car.

i(5853 Arefe) is a muteahhit, with i(0552 Bekir's) help.
They owned already an arsa, two dkkan, and daire, {gl : building plot, 2 shops and apartment} in which she is now living.
She is building 2 dkkan and 3 flats.
1 for sale
1 for i(5870 Semiye) her eldest
1 for herself
1 shop to rent
1 shop for i(5870 Semiye)

Marriages

1. i(5870 Semiye) was married to a primary school teacher. Very cnservative.
No previous acquaintance "Gecinemedik"{?}
He would not allow her to have bare arms e.g. She left him for 5 years and went to Germany. To please father they are together.
{"tembel"
hi turey
yapmayor} {?}
He earns 60,000TL a month and so they are living in i(5853 Arefe's) flat. i(5853 Arefe) and damal {?}are ks. He disapproves of her openness.
i(Saniye) is confident and open and dislikes her husband.

She has a young baby as well as the little girl.

She was working in Germany but her husband refuses to let her work in Antalya. She wishes to. Recently he has said she can if she wishes, but she is unhappy
about doing so with such grudging permission. Maybe she will. Fluent German.
2. i(5870 Semiye) and i(0553 Adnan) are in Germany. i(5870 Semiye) is working, like her mother, and i(0553 Adnan) (like her father) raises no objections.
3. i(Serfil) is also in Germany married to "Uakli" - a very quiet man. He is the best imi.
4. i(Sullan). When she was still in Germany, primary school, i(Boris (Zanguldalik)) began to pursue her.
{"Kandirili" promises of clothes, gifts and things}
He asked for her when he was a 24 year old student and she was 14. i(0047 Hidayet) refused. Then they found out that for 6 months "sevimiler" {gl : they had
been lovers} so they were forced to agree.
"Yan bytlk"{?} and they were married.
i(Boris) is a bad husband, they do not get on, he says she is "kltrsz". Very unsatisfactory.

I asked i(5853 Arefe) general questions. She said lots of people - her brother and i(0047 Hidayet's) brothers - disapprove.

She wants to continue as a 'muteahhit' after this building, but i(0552 Bekir) is against it. Why can she not be a normal woman?
She says "eitlik: ben erkek gibi" {gl : "we are equal: I'm as good as a man"}. She seemed not to have any general ideas about sexual inequality, though when
I pressed she did express general disapproval. "God made us equal".
Her sister does not disapprove but said she has a normal husband and could not possibly behave like her sister. i(5870 Semiye) complained of her husband's
repression and restrictions. "ok kizhan icli"{?}. Five years separation had improved things.

She insisted several times that she has supported i(0047 Hidayet). All property in their joint names.

k<marriage> k<women>
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